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Introduction
This is Semerone's to do list!

This blog is managed by Semerone, the founder of this wiki!

If I have new ideas or research results on Kishin Douji Zenki, I will add them here.

I created this page, so that my notes don't get scattered all over the wiki and in places they are not supposed to be.

The actual to do list sections can be found in the tabbers!

Why was the to do list was moved here?
Originally this was posted in the General Discussion Board, but I moved this, so the comments and the actual to do list-content would be separated.

Active entries
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Listed entries:


 * Lulupapa (19:16 2016-12-31)
 * Zenki (19:23 2016-12-31)
 * Goki/Akira (19:38 2016-12-31)
 * Vasara (19:52 2016-12-31)


 * Game exclusives:
 * Game exclusive antagonists (20:02 2016-12-31)


 * -|Lulupapa=

Lulupapa


After going through many episodes of the anime and making many screenshots, I could finally take a few good pictures of Lulupapa sitting on Chiaki's left shoulder.

Lulupapa first appears in Episode 26 of the anime.

The search for the tiny, pink fuzzball goes on. x)

Sometimes it's also really hard to find her at all, but I'm getting better at it.

(19:16 2016-12-31)
 * -|Zenki=

Zenki
As I noted in Vasara's entry, Zenki and Goki from the Manga have more forms than their Anime counterpats.

That's what Zenki's transformation line looks like:

Chibi -> Demon God -> Ultimate Demon God -> Rudra Fusion Soul -> Fighting Demon God

Not only does Zenki actually have two alternate versions of the Demon God form, but while one only appears in flashbacks and history books (which I dubbed as the "Ancient Demon God form"), the other one has an entire alternate timeline, which was actually the original timeline before the creators of the series decided to change it to the newer setting.

Zenki's "Pentagram form" only appears in Volume 5 Chapter 3 of the Manga and is exclusive to the alternate timeline. I dubbed it the "Pentagram form", as in this form, Zenki has a pentagram inside the crystal located in his tiara.

Zenki's alternate timeline transformations:

Chibi -> Pentagram

If I find any other forms, I will add their information to Zenki's article and gallery as well, but I still need to do more research on him.

Translation Errors?
I just recently noticed that there are a few differences between the Japanese names of Zenki's forms and the ones from the dub.

In the English dub, his "Demon God" form is called the "Guardian Spirit" form. Something similar goes for the "Ultimate Demon God" form which gets called the "Ultimate Guardian" form in the dub.

The manga sometimes also refers to the latter form as the "Vajura Demon Lord", which might either be a translation error or just some title that refers to both Zenki and Goki. Yet this information still has to be verified.

Also Zenki from the Anime says: "Shin Zenki kokuni gindi!" (or something like that) which would actually translate to "The God Zenki has risen!" instead of "The Guardian Zenki has risen!", as "Shin" means "God" and not "Guardian". (this might have to do with the 90's religious problems...)

I only know a few words of Japanese, but I have learned enough to tell some translation errors that seem to happen rather frequently. I still don't know how to react to this, so I'll keep this here in the comments section for now.

Well Chibi Zenki stays Chibi Zenki and as the other forms have no official names, they stay the same as well... x)

Zenki has levels, too?
Interestingly, just like Goki's forms, Zenki's forms can also be referred to by their levels. While this is officially only the case in the rereleased version of the manga, they would be as follows:


 * Chibi Zenki <-> Zenki (Level 1 form)
 * Demon God Zenki, Ancient Demon God Zenki or Pentagram Zenki <-> Zenki (Level 2 form)
 * Ultimate Demon God Zenki or Rudra Fusion Soul Zenki <-> Zenki (Level 3 form)
 * Fighting Demon God Zenki <-> Zenki (Level 4 form)

It is also notable, that Zenki's Demon God and Ancient Demon God forms are official the same "true form" and that his Pentagram and Rudra Fusion Soul forms still don't have official names.

To do

 * Add more info on Zenki's appearances in Tenchi Meidou, Kishin Douji Zenki (Game Gear) and Vajura Fight.
 * While I went did quite some work regarding those appearances, they still need a lot more research.

(19:23 2016-12-31)
 * -|Goki/Akira=

Goki/Akira
As I noted in Vasara's entry, Zenki and Goki from the Manga have more forms than their Anime counterpats.

'''Goki starts out in his human form as Akira, after that he achieves different stages of maturity as Goki when he regains his five elements. This is what Goki's transformation line looks like:'''

level 1 (kid stage) -> level 2 (midteen stage) -> level 3 (lateteen stage) -> level 4 (adult stage) -> level FINAL (adult stage)

Like Zenki, Goki also has multiple new forms in the Manga, but unlike Zenki's forms Goki's forms don't have individual names/titles. In the Anime, he has only 2 forms (Akira and Goki) while in the Manga there about 6 forms.

Unlike Karuma who just skips one of her forms in the Anime (her second, ice colored form, which can be seen in Den Ei Rai Bu), Goki just never reaches his later forms in the anime.

Interestingly, a similar thing happens in the games, Goki appears in. In Kishin Douji Zenki (Game Gear), Goki gets his earth element offscreen, but he never reaches his second form, because Shinsenbou is never killed by Hiki, thus never triggering Goki's grief about the loss of a relative, which made him transform into his second level form in first place.

Tenchi Meidou has Goki already possessing the Aether, Earth and Water elements when he's first introduced ingame, thus making him transforming pointless. Though it's pretty weird that he isn't shown in his level 3 form if he has three elements.

Also the game gives him the Ice element instead of the Water element, which the game oddly features with the Water-Kanji on its card and in the roulette, but has an iceblue background color and all characters using it attack with Ice elemental attacks, including Goki, who's most powerful move has him flinging a huge Ice dragon at his foe. While the dragon originates from the scene shown in the manga (which is reused in the cutscene after Roh's defeat in KDZ GG), Goki himself temporarily became an actual Light dragon, which Zenki rides on (cue the Immovable Dragon Staff), while Tenchi Meidou has Goki summoning an Ice dragon by taking a swing with the Immovable Dragon Staff. KDZ GG has Goki becoming a dragon just like in the manga.

I might add all that information to Goki's article and gallery when I have done more research on his new forms.

(19:38 2016-12-31)
 * -|Vasara=

Vasara


I previously thought that I added pretty much every info available about Vasara to his article.

He makes only a few appearances in the later volumes of the Manga and I listed his appearances from Volume 8 and 9, but the info on his appearance in Volume 12 is still missing.

I also still don't know when exactly he appears in the endgame of in Tenchi Meidou, but he is featured in a stage similar to his appearance in the manga.

At some point, I'll add more details on Vasara's appearances and actions, but for now he'll reside on this list.

Back on 2016-05-27, when I was looking for info on Vasara, I also found out that Zenki and Goki from the Manga have more forms than their Anime counterparts.

(19:52 2016-12-31)
 * -|Game exclusives=

Game exclusive antagonists
To do: There is still some stuff missing. I also need to add a few more sprites of these characters.

Something similar goes for the mini-bosses of Den Ei Rai Bu and the various foes from Vajura Fight. Vajura Fight is probably the worst offender with lots of content on its mini-bosses and bosses being completely absent.

(20:02 2016-12-31)

Other entries
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Listed entries:


 * Kokutei (19:42 2016-11-08)
 * Disco Goki and Zenki's Diamond Axe Weirdness (18:06 2016-11-02)


 * -|Kokutei=

Kokutei
While I already knew that Kokutei can transform, I found out something rather interesting while taking screenshots for the Game Gear Kishin Douji Zenki game's article. Or rather I found it out today, when I checked some pages of the manga about the appearances of the furious Goki and remembered Kishin Douji Zenki (Game Gear).

You see... I kinda noticed something awesome and that's that the kinda unexplained appearance of the the giant space-ship like monster is actually related to Kokutei, as Kokutei is the the giant space-ship like monster!

I came to this conclusion when I saw the odd image showing a weird, armored man stuck in a cocoon, which really resembled the one Kokutei turned into and it turned out true, when I saw both Roh and the fortune teller standing beside the weird guy and cheering at him as well.

So Kokutei's transformation line goes actually as follows:

Manga

dog -> winged dog -> large cocoon -> armored man (he is partially stuck in the cocoon and sitting there with his arms and his legs crossed)

Anime

dog -> large cocoon -> giant space-ship (with Kokutei in form of an armored man attached to it)

Once Kokutei takes on a humanoid form, he gains the ability to speak and looks more like a walking armor than a dog. He becomes bipedal and gains hands, he also doesn't really behave like a dog anymore and becomes more autonomous.

While Kokutei's dog, winged dog, cocoon and armored man forms do appear in the manga, the anime has him appear in his regular dog form, his cocoon form and his giant space-ship form.

(19:42 2016-11-08)
 * -|Disco Goki and Zenki's Diamond Axe Weirdness=

Disco Goki and Zenki's Diamond Axe Weirdness
As you might or might not know, there have been the following odd little things concerning Goki and Zenki as they appear in Kishin Douji Zenki 3 - Tenchi Meidou.

After my latest research on those two main characters from the Kishin Douji Zenki series, I found out two very different things, which will be cleared up now.

Disco Goki
The first one I want to cover is "Disco Goki".

This story spawned from the following facts:

''While Goki's mugshot and battle mode sprites depict him with his regular colors, his board game mode sprites show Goki with violet hair and have him wearing something that looks like a 70'ties disco outfit. Instead of walking normally, "Disco Goki" walks like as if he'd be mimicking Michael Jackson's famous moonwalk, without actually walking backwards.''

At first I believed "Disco Goki" to be either a game exclusive form which Goki only takes on in board game mode or a mix-and-match version of his level 1 and level 2 forms.

While the violet hair seems to be some kind of palette limitation, "Disco Goki" actually turned out to be Goki's level 1 form. Yet, I didn't notice this until yesterday, when I decided to draw Goki's level 1 form when I practiced drawing Goki. When I colored him, I noticed how similar he looked to "Disco Goki" and after checking the drawing and his sprite a few times I came to the conclusion that it's really just level 1 Goki.

I mean, Goki is able to uses his level 2 and level 3 abilities in his level 1 form in the game, but wouldn't a game-exclusive form way more awesome than just level 1 Goki?

Anyways, I'm still glad that I finally solved another mystery and will soon update Goki's article to correspond this new find.

Also even if we only have level 1 Goki, it's still awesome that we are able to play as Goki in Tenchi Meidou, as this is the only game where he is available as a playable character!

Sadly his other appearance is only as an NPC in the game gear game, where he's more of a cutscene only character than anything else...

Zenki's Diamond Axe Weirdness
Just as with Goki's "Disco form", this one seems to be game-exclusive, but I actually found out why Zenki always has access to his Diamond Axe ingame.

I noticed this after my most recent update of the Diamond Axe's article, which refers to the section "Two Diamond Axes?!" and is related to differences between the anime's and the manga's Diamond Axe and how Zenki accesses it.

In the anime, Chiaki has to prove her worth to gain the Diamond Axe from the Diamond Dragon for Zenki. This allows her to summon the Diamond Dragon with the Guardian Bracelet, who then becomes the Diamond Axe.

In the manga, Zenki is always able to summon the Diamond Axe while in his true form. We first see this when he counters the Inugami Roh's attack by summoning the axe while in this Ultimate Demon God form.

As Tenchi Meidou combines aspects from the manga and the anime, allowing character like Karuma and Vasara to cross paths and matchups that aren't possible in either, there's now both an explanation why Zenki can use the Diamond Axe from the start of the game and why Goki can use his later forms abilities without attaining these forms.

While Zenki's Diamond Axe has its anime appearance, it uses the same mechanics as in the manga, allowing Zenki to always summon it in his true form as it's the manifested form of Rudra (Thunder), which is equavalent of Zenki's light(ning) element, which is one of his two inherited elements, the other one being fire.

'''If Zenki charges up enough light(ning) in his body, which is possible because his body is darkness, but causes him to gamble his life, he is able to unleash Rudra or form the Diamond Axe. As Rudra might cost Zenki his life, but the manifested form, the Diamond Axe comes without drawbacks, Zenki obviously prefers the Diamond Axe.'''

'''So why doesn't Zenki always use the axe, if he can just readily summon it? I have the assumption that this is, because Zenki has also been covered by a multi-layered seal by Ozunu and needs Chiaki to unleash his true powers. This is only possible by Chiaki gaining experience and developing her abilities though and she needs to be recognized by Ozunu by passing his trials. As long as Ozunu doesn't recognize her as his successor, Chiaki can't unleash Zenki which prevents him from using the Diamond Axe and his later forms.'''

I might add this to Zenki's and the Diamond Axe's articles sooner or later.

But now back to Goki.

It is a similar case for him as while his manga self levels up and reaches up to his third form in the manga, regaining his lost elements and abilties as the reincarnated Goki, his anime self stays level 1 Goki, but can be seen using level 2 Goki's earth elemental abitlies later on in the anime.

As mentioned earlier, in Tenchi Meidou we play as level 1 Goki, who can also use his level 2 and level 3 forms abilties.

'''So he's just like his anime counterpart. He always stays in his level 1 form, yet he uses abilties which shouldn't be available to that form, but that just makes him more awesome!'''

Also the assumption that he always stays Goki in the manga isn't 100 % correct, he does revert to his human self sometimes, but Akira gets very little screentime in the manga...

(18:06 2016-11-02)

Active entries
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Listed entries:
 * Kishin Douji Zenki - Battle Raiden (16:58 2016-11-02)
 * Kishin Douji Zenki 2 - Den Ei Rai Bu (2016-05-05)
 * Game Gear Goki mysteries (2016-11-21 00:12)


 * -|Battle Raiden=

Kishin Douji Zenki - Battle Raiden


I will add more images of the regular stages and other mini-bosses, soon.

I also thought of adding descriptions and screenshots of the various ingame enemies, but this is just a thought and might be added sooner or later. x)

Battle Raiden elements
I recently found out that the whole elemental weaknesses thing doesn't work that way in Battle Raiden, it's more of an enemy X is weak or resistant against some attacks of big Zenki thing. And Chibi Zenki doesn't have special attacks, so the resistances and weaknesses don't apply for Zenki's Chibi form. Also Zenki himself doesn't have weaknesses or resistances in this game.

To do
Play the game and take more screenshots.

Even after playing the game so many times, I'm still unsure which attacks are some enemies' weaknesses as sometimes it's quite difficult to apply those. x)

Add images of the enemies and more descriptions, maybe also an infobox for enemies/traps? (name, image, health, weakness...)
 * Update: I made a new infobox template, called Template:Enemy :)

(16:58 2016-11-02)
 * -|Den Ei Rai Bu=

Cutscenes
The cutscenes and anime sequence battles happen as follows:

(I won't include the jump-and-run stages into this)

Beginning of the main game

1. First anime sequence battle against Goura (cutscene and battle intro)

2. Zenki's transformation (cutscene)

3. First anime sequence battle against Goura

4. Goura defeated for the first time and intro of Gagara (cutscene)

5. Anime sequence battle against Gagara

6. Gagara defeated (cutscene)

7. Anime sequence battle against Hiruda

8. Hiruda defeated (cutscene)

9. Anime sequence battle against Guren

10. Guren defeated for the first time (cutscene)

Guren later re-appears in the next stage as a jump-and-run stage boss.

11. Second anime sequence battle against Goura

12. Goura defeated for the second time (cutscene)

13. First anime sequence battle against Karuma (first form)

14. Karuma defeated for the first time (cutscene)

15. Anime sequence battle against Hyouinomi

16. Second anime sequence battle against Karuma (second form)

If you lose against Karuma, you will have to start the anime sequence battle over from the Hyouinomi fight.

End of the main game

17. Karuma defeated for the second time (cutscene)

18. Ending cutscene and credits roll

'''That should be all of them. If I'm missing something or made a mistake, I might add or correct it at any time.'''

To do
I still need to take screenshots of the jump-and-run sections, prepare and upload them. This goes both for this game and Battle Raiden.

(2016-05-05)


 * -|Game Gear Goki mysteries=

Goki's weird introduction in Kishin Douji Zenki (Game Gear)
A few months ago I found a very strange cutscene in the Sega Game Gear Kishin Douji Zenki game.

The cutscene is related to Goki's ingame introduction, which featured some very odd moments, but after months of ambiguity there's now an explanation for everything, including Game Gear Goki's weirdness, which made him act completely out of character.

Goki's strange and unexplained out of character moment
Just like in the manga, Goki first appears after Zenki's defeat at the hands of Hiki the Black Tortoise.

Zenki has died and is now sealed in some kind of crystal ball. In the manga Goki actively helps Chiaki by jumping in and saving both her and Zenki. After that, Goki goes and revives Zenki, using his healing powers.

Yet, in the game this moment turned into a very odd situation instead:

For some strange reason, Goki is neither a playable character nor an AI controlled helper in this game and will just idle in the place he appeared in. It is unknown why the developer chose to make this section like this as it makes Goki act very out of character.

This leads to a rather strange situation where Zenki dies and gets sealed just like in the manga, but from there, things just go haywire. Chiaki has to do all the work to bring back Zenki by herself, while Goki just leans to a building and acts all cool instead of helping...

When Chiaki revisits the place and talks to Goki, he acts all sad and then goes back to acting all cool when Chiaki turns her back on him...

This makes Goki look like a heartless jerk instead of what he is portrayed as in the original work (the manga) where he in truth is a kind and caring character, who would willingly sacrifice his life to save and protect Chiaki and the others.

(from 2016-08-20 18:33)

Unless stated otherwise, the games are non-canon
Dear reader,

please keep in mind that this is a game and thus non-canon. The strange way Goki acts in this game is very likely either an event that got lost because of the language barrier or a mistake by the developer.

Goki is usually a kind and caring character who would never act selfish or let his friends down and would even sacrifice his own life to protect Chiaki and the others.

This is best seen in the manga as the anime has kinda demoted Goki to a lesser known character, despite him being on equal terms with Zenki in the original legend.

Greetings

Semerone, the founder of this wiki

(from 2016-08-20 18:39)

There's finally an explanation for Goki's weird behaviour in Kishin Douji Zenki (Game Gear)!


After rewatching the video of the Game Gear game's gameplay, I remembered Goki's five elements and noticed something which I didn't notice before. (or more likely couldn't because I didn't have that information back then)

There are five crystal gems which feature various colors and symbols. Not only are the symbols the kanji of the five elements, but also the colors prove that fact even further.

Well... The game still hasn't been translated, but I think I might have found the reason why Goki acts so weird in this game. After connecting Goki's elements and info from the manga with the odd cutscene from the game, I assume that Goki stays with Zenki's dead body as Goki has somehow lost his five elements when he protected Chiaki from Hiki.

'''Goki's five elements flew off into different areas of the ingame world and now Chiaki needs to find them and bring them to Goki, so Chiaki and Goki can revive Zenki. Goki also seems to be in some kind of a powerless state, which would explain why he can't help Chiaki and choses to watch over Zenki's remains instead.'''

It is only an assumption, but it would explain so many things and also fit way more into Goki's character than the odd "bad guy Goki".

It would also fit with the ingame changes to the story, as the Kishin Douji Zenki games not only don't feature Zenki's later forms, the situation would also force Goki into the aforementioned "Goki has to protect Chiaki from Hiki, but there's no Ultimate Demon God Zenki to help them"-situation, where Goki, being the selfless hero he is, would obviously give all his strength to protect Chiaki and Zenki's remains, which in turn would explain why Chiaki would need to bring back Goki's elements and not Goki himself.

I guess this solves the mystery and clears Goki's name. ;)

(from 2016-09-24 18:22)

Another update


As of 2016-10-16, I have some new information, which has been kindly provided by an anonymous donor!

According to her the situation is actually as follows:

"Goki has the ability to reform Zenki's physical form by gathering the FIVE cosmic elements together, yet the completion of this task also depends on Chiaki's incantation, as we can already witness in Volume 4 of the Manga. Goki didn't 'exhaust' himself with the magic, but he was forced to stay fixed in his position while the Strategy of Resurrection was being processed, that was the ultimate reason why he couldn't protect Chiaki and ended up looking like a jerk at that specific moment."

(2016-10-16 17:54)

Final words on Game Gear Goki's mystery
I will soon fix this mess with the new information and clear Goki's name. This way, new fans won't mistake Goki for a heartless jerk, but see his true colors instead.

I'm glad that I could finally solve this mystery. This means that there's now one thing less to worry about when I continue working on this wiki and it also allows me to progress working on Goki's article without stumbling over what stood out like a sore thumb from his otherwise very detailed article.

(2016-09-24 18:48)

Yet, another update?!
Now that I worked on the game again and took more screenshots, I noticed that this might actually be a fight featuring Zenki and Goki VS Kimon and Hiki!

You see, after trying to find Hiki's second form in Kishin Douji Zenki for the Game Gear, I actually (with my newly aquired knowledge of Kimon's existence) found out, that Zenki doesn't fight Hiki's second form, but actually Kimon the White Tiger!

As Kimon is invincible in this game, Zenki has to use Rudra to defeat Kimon, causing the scene which would normally be caused by his fight against Hiki's second form in the manga.

Zenki dies and Goki appears and as Hiki never reached his second form onscreen, it is hinted that Goki defends Zenki's dead remains against the returned Hiki in his second form offscreen, while Chiaki takes a walk and tries to find the five cosmic elements!

Once she returns, Zenki in his Ultimate Demon God form (hinted by his dialoge ingame), takes down Hiki's second form (shown by a flash of light). The cutscene then goes to a dialogue between Zenki and Goki, which again features a slightly altered version of their dialogue from the manga.

I'll go ahead and fix this as soon as possible, but actually this should be the final version as there are no other instances of Zenki's death scene from the manga happening ingame.

(2016-11-21 00:12)

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