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= Manga blog talk (part 1) =

This entry was originally listed as "Thread 7810".

No. 1 - 10=

No. 1 - Goki
Hello, Zenki!

Could you please go ahead and translate my latest message on the manga blog into German?

No. 2 - Zenki
Yo, Goki! :D

Okay! I'll take care of it, once I've updated the descriptions for the new images, that Seme and I made for Freddy's Super Mario 64 Official Wiki. :3

Kain ojindate
I just thought: "If I'm gonna translate this, why not update your's and Seme's avatars, as well?"

While Seme's avatar is there, I can't update your's, thought, as there's only the screenshot you made your avatar from, but not the cutout version. You don't need to upload it, but it would be nice, if I could place your current avatar alongside mine and Seme's in our manga blog.

I think, that people could relate to us better, if I could.

No. 3 - Goki
(smiles)

Thanks, Zenki! ^^

Of cause, I can upload my avatar, if you need it for the manga blog. I really don't mind.

Maybe, I am even going to update the avatars by myself. ^^

Shugenjadate
I uploaded and updated my avatar.

At first, I just added it and a new quote. The image was too large for my section, so it crossed over with Semerone's. I didn't want to take her space away, so I decided to shrink it.

Somehow it turned even larger as a result. (laughs and facepalms)

Then I adjusted it to the size of your image and it turned out fine. ^^

No. 4 - Zenki
Oi! Snazzy! :3

Don't worry, Goki. This happens to everyone, especially now, that the tabbers are also invisible while editing things.

This especially bugged me, while I was editing Gagara's article, cause every edit was like opening a fragile box, that someone sent you, with you not knowing, if its contents are fine or broken, but FANDOM staff said, that the issue will be fixed around Tuesday to next week.

I think, we can live another week with the issue. Big thanks to you for making a new subpage as a workaround, so we can show the "Translation Reading Samples" despite it.

I'm now going to take care of the translation. ;3

Kain ojindate
Yo, Goki!

I just finished the translation of the manga blog's main entry and I'm now going to check out the subpage. :3

No. 5 - Goki
Haha, thanks! ^^

Yes, that's true. It's very annoying, but I am glad to hear, that they are going to fix it till next week.

That's right. And who wants to open a fragile box, without knowing, if the contents are fine or broken...? ^^'

Thank you for translating the main entry.

No. 6 - Zenki
No, prob, bro! :3

Ecks dee! XD

It's an Ecks dee with a collar! XD)

Somehow my comment was really buggy, so I'm going to post my notes again.

Notes for later
I didn't want to post this in the open, cause it also concerns the bowdlerizations and errors present in the DD translation and I might accidentally upset the translators, if I did.

Black Dragons and the Noroi-Shi
Yay! :D

So far, I mostly translated the intro and came along some rather interesting finds. Also, once again, the original text is way more intense then the DynamicDesings' version.

Again, they did an awesome job translating the game, no questions, but the more I keep translatin' the more I come across various bowdlerizations similar to how the gory and nudity from the manga were extremely toned down in the anime.

For example, in the Japanese version of the intro, Chiaki is absolutely horrified by the vision of Mount Fuji blowing up in the intro and Chibi Zenki says, that Ozunu made some shabby old hill, but was forgetful and left a gap in his barrier. My ingame counterpart's past self from Ozunu's time obviously had to test his strength by trying out that messed up part of the barrier, only to find out, that it's to powerful for him to break.

In the English version by DynamicDesigns the story sounds a bit weird, leading to things like "a great many people" and my ingame counterpart calling Ozunu an "old fart".

I think they messed up a bit, by literally translating the text again, as in Japanese, it's indeed "a great many people", but in English this should simply be "many people". Also, Chibi Zenki isn't calling Ozunu a "jiji", he is referring to the hill as it being "jiji".

If he would be referring to Ozunu as a "jiji" (basically a disrespectful way of adressing someone or something old), he would call him a "grumpy old man" or somethin' like that. But this isn't the case.

Large Update incoming!
Anyways...

I'm obviously going to work on both the Battle Raiden Cutscenes and Ryuuma-ou-Mikado's Other Appearances- and Gallery-sections, which will soon receive a larger update featuring my new translations and screenshots!

Nothing against you, DD, but...
Of cause, I still love the DynamicDesigns translation. The only thing that bugs me is, that it becomes more and more obvious, that there likely wasn't a Japanese tongue speaker around and that they heavily relied on translator tools without properly double checking things, so it seems to me, like they rushed the translation.

I dunno, why they did this and I think, that Semerone overlooked these errors, because she was really happy to finally see an English translation back when it was released.

No. 7 - Goki
(smiles)

Ahaha! I saw those, too!

(picks up an XD) and pets it)

(the XD) starts purring)

On notes
I agree, it's maybe for the better, if this isn't posted in the open.

But, it's an quite interesting find. (nods in approval)

Hmm... But, didn't Semerone already change the "Guardian Spirits" into "Demon Gods"?

So, I think, that DynamicDesigns simply took the anime as their translation base and didn't know any better, which would explain both the "Guardian Spirit Zenki" and the bowlderizations mentioned by you.

Of cause, it's better, if we don't end up insulting anyone, so be sure to only post these in the open, if you can add your translations to give them a solid base.

I am a huge fan of your translations, nonetheless, so thumbsup from me, brother! ^^

No 8. - Zenki
Yay! More XDs! :3

(an XD hops into my hair, now it splitted into three)

(the 3 XD start purring and make their nest)

Nuuuu!!! XD XD XD

Hahaha! I just made a pun on one of the conversations, I had with Semerone. X3

Also, just noticed, that all the tabber comments there are invisible, too! So it affects all comments featuring tabbers!

Too bad, I had to quit the initial fun talk about XDs over at Freddy's, cause it got late and I felt really tired. I would have loved to continue laughing with him and making funny XD puns!

About notes

Thanks! :3

Of cause! (facepalms)

Oi! I think I kinda missed out on that one... So, Semerone had already fixed various errors, that were ported over from the anime? That explains so many things! XD

Maybe, I should read the Battle Raiden Scripts before I continue wondering about why some things are so weird in the DD translation. (lets out a manly laugh)

No. 9 - Goki
Ah... I love these puns, too! ^^

(takes the XD out of Zenki's hair and puts collars onto them, now we have four XD) sitting around)

(pets the XD) and they continue purring)

These XD remind me a bit of the tribbles from Star Trek, or maybe Semerone's original species, the Micro plushies/Mikros? (chuckles)

About notes

(starts making joking around, too)

Yeah, you better properly read those scripts! (points at you in a humorous manner while making funny faces)

We don't want the XDs, tribbles and Micro plushies to start eating all your notes! (laughs)

(stops joking)

It's okay! Who can have their eyes and their ears everywhere at such a large wiki as Kishin Douji Zenki Wikia? (smiles)

2017-09-18
(sees your comment)

(can't answer anymore... too sleepy...)

(logs off and goes to bed)

2017-09-22


Hehehe! Snazzy! :3

I just went and checked out the Fighting Demon God form in the Chinese version of Volume 12.

Didn't get to lay my hands on the Japanese version, yet and takin' pictures in the middle of the night would only give me bad and blurry ones, that make the Furigana and Kanji impossible to read.

Though, here's my sample from the Chinese version:

闘鬼神 前鬼 Tatakai Kishin Zenki (?)

Hmm... From what I translated, this becomes "Battle Demon God Zenki" or "Competing Demon God Zenki". (though "Figthing Demon God Zenki" is also correct)

I still need to check the Japanese version, though, as I only have this Kanji writing and not the Furigana writing, so I don't know, if Tani-Sama and Kuroiwa-Sama really chose this name.

Also, things can differ in-between versions, so I'm gonna double check this later this day, so we don't end up with another "Gaihoumen".


 * -|No. 11 - 20=

No. 11 - Zenki
Oiii!!!

Today, I made phographs of this page from the Japanese version and I did the right thing!

The official name for this form is like this:

Furigana: とう きしん ゼンキ

Romaji: "Tō Kishin Zenki" or "Tou Kishin Zenki"

(Kanji writing is the same as in the Chinese manga)

So, in the Japanese version it's "Tou Kishin Zenki", while in the Chinese one, it's "Dou Guishen Qian Gui".

Both of these translate as this:

"Battle Demon God Zenki"

Awesome, isn't it?

While I was at it, I also translated the rest of my line, which has mainly Furigana in the Japanese version. XD

So snazzy. I'm gonna answer Miss Azure now, though. ;3

No. 12 - Goki
Tou Kishin Zenki

(smiles)

Congratulations, brother! ^^

Noroi-Shi

A though on the Noroi-Shi just crossed my mind, though.

Noroi is the pronounciation of the Kanji, but aren't Kuroiwa-Sama and Tani-Sama usually using the spoken Furigana writing for the names?

So the name of the group actually should be "[Furigana writing of Noroi-Shi]" instead of Noroi-Shi.

Of cause, this doesn't change the meaning of the translation. They are still the "Curse Samurai" or "Curse Warriors", as you stated, but I ask you to give the "Noroi-Shi"-writing a second thought.

No. 13 - Zenki
Tou Kishin Zenki

Thanks! :3

Noroi-Shi

(Chibi Zenki eyes grow wide)

I'm such a....

Baka!

Curses! (facepalms)

No. 14 - Goki
Tou Kishin Zenki

You are welcome. (nods)

Noroi-Shi

Don't worry, this happens to everyone.

The most important thing is, that we noticed it in time, so we can fix it.

No. 15 - Zenki
(grins and shows his fang)

Thanks, bro! It's snazzy to know, I can rely on ya. ;3

No. 16 - Goki
Hello, Zenki!

You are very welcome. ;)

How are you doing today?

I am going to prepare some images by removing the roses, so we can replace their older versions and improve the wiki.

Thank you for mentioning all of your finds in your file edit summaries, so Semerone and myself can find and correct them as well. ^^

No. 17 - Zenki
Hey! What happened to my comment?! (posts comment a second time)

Yo, Goki! :3

(happy grin)

I'm feeling like I could eat a giant Hyouinomi today! XD

Thanks for updatin' the wikinav. :D

It's easy to forget about it when you're in the middle of editing things. You are done editin' and then you don't even notice, ya didn't update the wikinav, yet. (facepalms)

Snazzy! :3

Let's take care of this together! :D

No prob. It's important and if I didn't I'd likely forget about them, too! XD

Cho Kainojindate
postin' this update the second time

Curses! Seems like I'm not helpin' out anywhere today... :(

Mah internet connection is really friggin' dodgy and crashes every few minutes. I could barely even write mah comment over at SM64O Wiki and had to post it thrice, till it registered... :P

19:05
It's okay, Zenki!

It's not your fault, that the wiki is having hiccups again. ^^'

21:34
Don't worry, Zenki! ^^

I not only went took care of as many roses as I could for the moment, but also fixed the Tou Kishin Zenki filename issue. ;)

2017-09-25


Phew... I am tired.

I just went and not only created a new category for the images, that need to be replaced, but also added a great anmount of them already and fixed some outdated entries related to the Hyouinomi and the Jushi.

No. 19 - Zenki
Oi! Snazzy! :D

You're not the only one, who's tired. Seme already went to bed and I'm feeling extremely sleepy.

I'm gonna upload at least some of mah new manga translations, though, nonetheless.

2017-10-04
Let's continue our "Anime talk (the redlinks episode)" here, because things got "off topic" in the other one. Also, this one seems rather dead for no good reason? ^^'

2017-10-05


To Semerone and Zenki

Hello and good evening, my friends!

How are the translations coming? ^^


 * -|No. 21 - 30=

No. 21 - Zenki
To Goki

Oi! Good evening to you, too, bro! :D

Seme and mahself finished working on the Japanese to English translations of Roh's introduction and the Nozomi pages and are currently preparing the pages, so we can upload them to the wiki. :3

It will probably take us another hour to finish this, but at least I have good news!

On October 3, we had 203 visitors! :D

So, once Seme and mahself are done, you should be able to see the English versions of pages 174 and 175 of Volume 3 and 20 to 23 of Volume 4 in our folders! :3

Just let us finish preparing these and you should see results pretty soon! :D

No. 22 - Semerone
Zenki and myself just finished preparing the pages of Roh's and Kokutei's introduction in the manga. We now have both an English and a German translation of these. ;)

update
I just went and updated the entries on Roh's and Kokutei's pages, as well as our manga blog, but now I am very tired. ^^'

Zenki has already gone to bed and I will now go to bed, too.

We will take care of the Enemy Lakitu for Super Mario 64 Official Wiki and the visualization of the new Nozomi related translation tomorrow.

Good night, Gokimaru! ^^

No. 23 - Zenki
To Goki

Yo, bro! :D

Today, Seme and mahself played some Super Mario 64 and made screenshots of Tiny-Huge Island for Freddy's Super Mario 64 Official Wiki!

We didn't get to visualize the new Nozomi translation, yet, though. Seme was very tired once she finished her exam and I just felt like going outside and jumping around the rooftops, cause the weather was pretty nice later in the day.

But don't worry, bro. Today's Friday, which means we've got plenty of time to do the Nozomi related stuff and maybe also make screenshots of the Engai mentions together! :D

No. 24 - Goki
To Zenki

Hello, Zenki! ^^

So... did Semerone pass her exam and get the desired certificate?

It's good to hear, that you managed to make screenshots of Tiny Huge Island!

(goes over to Super Mario 64 Wiki to check out the new screenshots)

(comes back)

Hmm... But where's the enemy Lakitu, I requested...? (sad ears drop)

No. 25 - Zenki
To Goki

Yup, she totally passed the exam and got the certificate! :D

(sees sad Goki)

Oiii! :(

Don't be sad, bro! :D

We did make more screenshots, but the other ones looked a bit weird, but Seme has prepared some cutouts, which she's gonna upload soon, which also include the desired Lakitu! :3

No. 26 - Goki
To Zenki

Oh! That's good to hear! ^^

Dōmo arigatōgozaimasu, Zenki! (Thank you so much, Zenki!)

It makes me very happy to hear that! ^^

No. 27 - Zenki
To Goki

Hehehe! (gives you a box of Ecks Dees)

Don't thank me, thank Semerone! She was the one, who played Super Mario 64 and took all these neat little screenshots and prepared the cutouts, not me. I was just watching her play. XD

No. 28 - Semerone
To both

Okay! Let's keep on going, then, guys! :D

I am going to drink some tea with Zenki and then, we are going to take care of the visualization of the new Nozomi related translation and also create a German version of it, while we are at it. ;)

No. 29 - Zenki
To Seme

Snazzy! :3

We got hold up by some Spinys, but now we really gonna take care of Nozomi's manga self. XD

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/super-mario-64-official/images/f/f7/Tiny_Huge_Island_Spiny_sideview.png/revision/latest?cb=20171006192520

(screenshot and cutout by Semerone) Spiny: "Maximum, blocky cuteness engaged!" Me: "Ecks dee!!!" XD

No. 30 - Goki


Ahaha! XD

Don't worry, Zenki. :'D

I can wait a few more minutes and pet the Ecks Dees you gave me.


 * -|No. 31 - 40=

No. 31 - Semerone
Good news! :D

Zenki and myself just finished translating the first two pages featuring Nozomi and Wawashi! I just finished checking the grammar for the last sentence of Roh's dialogue from Volume 4 page 21 of the German translation. ^^

Once Zenki and myself are done with about the half of page 22 (which is as far as we translated things into English by the way), we are going to prepare some cutouts and then will return with our completed three pages in English and German. ;)

No. 32 - Goki
That's great to hear! ^^

I can't wait to see the finished version of the translation based on the Japanese work. (cheerful smile)

It makes me curious about how much it will differ from the few entries I translated from the Chinese base. ^^'

No. 33 - Zenki
Yay! We just finished translating the third and final Nozomi page! :D

No. 34 - Goki
Thank you for replacing my Chinese to English translations with your Japanese to English ones and deleting my entries! Keeping them around, once there is a more accurate translation available wouldn't make any sense, so I greatly welcome your actions. ^^

No. 35 - Zenki
Oi! No problem, bro! :3

Though, that's all for now.

Seme just went to bed and I'm very tired now, too.

Good night, Goki! :D

Let's keep working on the Nozomi article tomorrow! I've got a feeling, that we can add a lot more content to it, now that Kirbyfan has helped us out with the Vajura Fight related entries.

No. 36 - Goki
(cheerful smile)

That's fine with me. I am going to get myself some rest, too.

Good night, my friends! ^^

Of cause, we can continue working on the Nozomi article tomorrow! Why not also work on the Engai article's gallery, while we are at it? (of cause, only if we find the time to do so)

No. 37 - Zenki


Okay! XD

Everything's ready.

Just let me finish eatin' mah ice cream and I'm gonna have a look at the Nozomi article! >:3

No. 38 - Goki
Hmm... I just hit the random page button by sheer accident and came across Lulupapa's page. Then I saw an image from the devsketches section and thought: "Hey! Wasn't Zenki working on these?"

So this comment is meant as a reminder for you, so you don't forget, my dear friend. ^^'

No. 39 - Zenki
Hey! That's snazzy! Thanks, bro! :3

I have one for ya, too! You were workin' on my article's Vajura Fight section, weren't ya?!

With my latest records on the second intro, you could totally go ahead and update it and add some images, once I'm done uploadin' them! :D

No. 40 - Goki
Thanks, Zenki! It's good to know, that we are reminding each other. ^^'

Of cause, your animation and your screenshots are going to be a huge aid, when I continue working on this section! (smiles gently)


 * -|No. 41 - 48 (End)=

No. 41 - Zenki
You're very welcome, bro.

I found four images from the Chinese manga, that some friends from another (now sadly very dead) KDZ community gave Seme back in the founding days of this wiki, though they are pretty bad quality.

We need to replace those, but manga pages from our own Chinese manga are so bright, that taking them would result in outright abysmally bad images. Namely, they would be way worse than the ones we currently have.

This means, that Seme and mahself need to make our own photographs of these. Both to replace the bad images and for later on, when we translate these.

The images in question are these:

Roh manga.png Inugami Roh - Volume 6 page 16

Roh manga 2.png Inugami Roh - Volume 6 page 17

Kokutei manga.png Kokutei - Volume 6 page 17

Kokutei manga 2.png Kokutei - Volume 6 page 16

Updated on 2017-10-12, as I now added the new photographs, that Semerone and myself made today and replaced the old images, so there's no point in presenting the images here anymore.

No. 42 - Goki
I just wondered, what we should do today, but now, that I saw this talk again, and...

Yes. I think, I want to ask you to add more screenshots related to the second intro, so I can continue working on the Vajura Fight section of your article. ^^

No. 43 - Zenki
Okie-dokie!

But first, I'm gonna eat my fish bread and add the new video, that Kirbyfan kindly added to the wiki, to our Video archive.

Afterwards, I will check out your request.

Rudoradate
Yo! Everything's ready. ;3

I'm goin' to bed now.

Good night, bro! :3

No. 44 - Goki
I am going to study the second intro now, so I can finally continue working on the Vajura Fight related Ingame Zenki page. ^^

No. 45 - Elsoraq (bot)
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2017-10-11
Oh, dear.... ^^'

Thanks, Elsoraq. Seems like Semerone and Zenki are out of business for today, then... (sad sigh and ears drop)

2017-10-12
Hello, Semerone and Zenki!

How are the photographs of Inugami Roh and Kokutei going? Were you able to make new pictures of the scene, where the clairvoyant woman, Roh and Dokuro Sou watch the wounded Kokutei, yet? ^^'

I am just asking, because Zenki called me today and said, you two were going to work on this, so I am curious, if you were successful or if the weather and lighting put a spoke in your wheel again.

No. 47 - Zenki
Oi! Hi, Goki! :D

Yup! While things didn't go 100% perfect, they went pretty snazzy and Seme and I were able to make photographs, that turned out pretty well.

They are pretty good to make out the text for further translations and perfectly fine to replace the old images with, that Seme got in the past, but the edges turned out a bit blurry, so they are no good for the presention in our manga translation samples blog or the finished product, when we arrive at that part properly with our full translation of everything. (rolleyes and XD)

So...

While they are snazzy for the thing intended, their use only partially goes beyond that, which is a shame, cause Seme spent another two and a half hours on this, but I guess, you sometimes can't have everything... (sad nawww...)

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Here is where Manga blog talk (part 1) ends and Manga blog talk (part 2) begins.

"Zenki:

This is gettin' way too long. Made a part 2 for this talk thread."